bill_reed
Jul 10, 2017

Lion attack on video

4 comments

Re: Lion attack video. Reflex shooting a lion! One wonders what the learning curve is like on that skill.

 

I had two equipment related questions. Firstly, I did not see any telescopic sights on any of the rifles (may have missed same). Would like to know what sort of iron sights were employed.

 

Next, the extraction problems. That rifle appeared to have an excellent extractor. What make was that rifle. Was the malfunction caused by handloads or a defective factory cartridge?

 

There are several important message in the brief video. Thanks for sharing the video with us.

Andries
Jul 10, 2017Edited: Jul 11, 2017

The visiting hunter had a telescopic sight AND was allowed to use a tripod. I still would have allowed a 1.5-3x sight but nothing with high magnification. No PH will carry a glass optic on a dangerous game rifle. The sights will invariably be for 50 / 100 / 150 yards. Calibres will either be .375 H&H or .458 Lott , using Musgrave / BRNO / CZ 550 rifles.

 

The rifle with the extractor problem was a Ruger M77 Africa Model in either .375 Ruger or .416 Ruger. One can speculate a lot about the cause; the bolt lifted easily but the pull back was very heavy.

bill_reed
Jul 10, 2017

Thanks. The Newton is coming along well. The video of the lion attack was forwarded too my shooting friends.

Andries
Jul 11, 2017Edited: Jul 11, 2017

I shall translate the Afrikaans conversations in the video into English in time.

 

We have a concession for a walk and stalk black maned lion hunt in the Kalahari region of the Northern Cape Province. Beautiful area. I do not allow hangers-on for a lion hunt. One extra man on a Cape buffalo hunt is acceptable.

 

 

Andries
Jul 11, 2017Edited: Jul 11, 2017

A little more about hunting lion:

  • A 1.5-3x magnification is O.K. for the visiting hunter but the setting will be on 1.5.

  • A controlled feed action which the PH will cycle one magazine's rounds through. The minimum calibre is .375 H&H with minimum 300gr soft point bullets.

  • He must practise before hand to hit a 4" clay target off hand at 50 yards with every shot he takes.

  • After the scope had been checked for zero he must demonstrate three shots off-hand at 50 yards into 4" until he can do it.

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    It is the infanticide after a productive male had been killed that inhibits the sustainability of prides. When a new male joins a pride he invariably will kill the cubs in order to bring lionesses into oestrus again so he can produce his own bloodline offspring. To allow the sustainability of the best blood lines as well as hunting, males must never be shot until they are 7 years or older. In fact, taking an 8 year old male in a way preserves his memory and still good-looking pelt. After 8 years their condition will go down and many die of hunger. Lions are the only big cats in the world that establish social structures. Prides typically consist of 4-5 adult lionesses, their dependent cubs, and a temporary coalition of family males - until the latter within moments can become enemies due to mating rights or the denial thereof. These males normally play a key role in defending their pride against invading males by forming coalitions of 2-3 individuals to defend the pride’s territory by roaring, patrolling, scent marking and aggressively attacking invading males. Infanticide ensures that the new male will pass on his genes to boost his reproductive character while reducing the DNA of the previous dominant males. Trophy hunting over bait has by default killed the strongest male who had executed dominance over the bait, thereby allowing a lesser animal who would not have been able to fight him to kill his offspring and maybe mate with the lionesses in the pride The social nature of lions and common employment of infanticide means that lion populations are greatly impacted by the loss of productive males. For example, after 72% of the adult males studied in Hwange National Park, Zimbabwe had been killed by trophy hunters when they roamed onto private land, these pride males were replaced by invading lion that caused high rates of infanticide and markedly disrupted population stability ( Loveridge et al. 2007 ). As a general rule, hunting males older than 7 years ensures the quantity as well as the quality of the population AND of the long-term huntability. The science of determining lions' age grew out of the need to make trophy hunting sustainable and therefor ethical. Determining a lions age is important for the ethical trophy hunter; I believe I can tell any lion's age to within a year. Lion trophy hunting must be managed in a way that reduces directly related infanticide to achieve sustainable lion populations and long-term hunting. Sustainable trophy hunting can be accomplished by killing only adult males that have raised cubs to independence. This is exactly the reason for the excellent growth in lion populations on large private properties in South Africa.

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